i think people will -- >> will harry reid bring it up for a vote? >> i hope so. >> what are you hearing? >> we think that people ought to be given the opportunity to offer bills, offer amendments on the senate floor. he said it's going to be an open process. >> so if schumer wants a bill, it'll get a vote. and you think that'll happen? >> i think so. >> let's talk about this trafficking bill. how much of a mark would that play? how much would that stop dangerous behavior with guns? if you were stopping people from buying guns who had a criminal intent? >> right now the penalty for that is something like the same as for trafficking livestock or chickens. and that's not a particularly stiff penalty and a lot of prosecutors don't want to do it. adding a penalty will make a difference. it's an important bill. >> if the call comes from chicago, i want to get semiautomatic weapons i'm going after a bank job, they would not suffer a serious criminal threat? >> straw purchasing for example is when somebody who is able to buy a gun because they have a clean